Iv had the Traktor S4 for a few years now,and basically have mastered the ins and outs of it!! I feel that now I’m ready to move up a gear and maybe move onto the real Mcoy (Pioneer) RecordBox. Only thing is that I’m ab it worried about the move,is it going to be. If your controller is compatible with RekordBox or Traktor then it should work. For example: DDJ-FLX6, DDJ-1000, DDJ-800, DDJ-400, DDJ-200, DDJ-RZX, DDJ-RZ, Traktor Kontrol S2, S3, S4, S8, Z2, Z1. Will it work with my Pioneer CDJs? It works with any Pro-DJ Link capable Pioneer hardware.
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Hi Guys,
I play both bars and clubs, and in general I’ve used CDJ1000s for the club or if playing house in a bar, and I use Traktor with a Kontrol S2 the rest of the time (and for making mix tapes at home). Have started using CDJ2000s more often now and would like to use just USB sticks with them. So I’m wondering if installing Rekordbox will affect how all my music files are handled with Traktor. e.g will it mess up the track grids/tags and other data?
Maybe I would have to copy some tracks to the USB (I wouldn’t need ALL my music on Rekordbox) and just manage that with Rekordbox?
Cheers in advance!
Adam.
You have just hit the proverbial nail on the head. I have stated a few times that I consider this to become the biggest problem with digital DJ-in the upcoming decade, unless something is done to correct it (and you never know what is happening behind the scenes already, right?).
I believe that all your information (at least the common stuff that has no bearing on program specific features) should travel with the track, not stay behind in a (proprietary) database. So if you set cue points, loops, beat markers and such for a track on whatever platform you use (Traktor, Serato, VDJ, RekordBox, Engine, any of the iPad apps) it should be stored with the track and be available when you load the track in any of the other programs.
Doesn’t work that way (yet?!).
How it does work though:
- You do your thing in Traktor
- I actually think you can then load your tracks into RekordBox as well (since they both don’t move tracks someplace different (like iTunes always wants to do) and run RekordBox. So no need to copy actual music files to another place for use in RekordBox.
- You can set playlists in RekordBox and just export whatever tracks/playlists and even CDJ setting to USB sticks.
You will however NOT be able to use the cues, loops and such you set in Traktor in RekordBox or the other way around.
So, keeping things in sync could be a bit tricky and at least a lot of manual labor.
Major point for you again: I think you can let both Traktor and RekordBox use the same folder for their music files. They will just both make databases of the added info elsewhere. If I am wrong about that I hope another reader can correct me here.
It may be wise to set the analysis features of RekordBox so that stuff that you already did in Traktor (BPM and Key info for example) are not re-analyzed in RekordBox. You’d want RB to use just the info that is already in the tags right.
Greetinx,
C.If you are useing a Mac there is a program called Rekord Buddy that lets you sync your Traktor and Rekordbox liberary. So as I asume you have all your songs already beatgrided set hotcues in Traktor with Rekord Buddy you can sync them to Rekordbox and get all the cue points and info synched in one go. I’ve used it for some time now and it’s realy a good program for this.
sorry to deter an old thread, Im a traktor user (S4mk2), and starting to want to set loop points and hot cues, and also using rekordbox for CDJ gigs. I first put all my tracks in itunes and organize it in playlists there. Im trying to get the best workflow from there on (only to have the same playlists on my ipod for backup when computer crashes).
I have been very unhappy in the amount of work that i need to get my tracks from my itunes library (on an external HD) into my traktor collection on a USB stick. i might be doing it wrong though.
the process from itunes to rekordbox seems way easier.
my question before i start the hard work on all my tracks: is it better/ faster to do traktor to rekordbox or rekordbox to traktor for setting up cues/ loops (via rekord buddy- gosh 4 bloody softwares to go thru…)
im sure im not the only one in this situation. what worked best for youz?Seriously, this is my main reason for not wanting more than one kind of software. It is easy enough to use iTunes in both platforms, but as soon as cue points and loops and such are involved, it becomes a whole new ball game with only an external tool like RekordBuddy helping out.
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With this feature you can convert your from Rekordbox, Traktor, VirtualDJ or Serato to any of these.
Converting your library works on both macOS and Windows
Usage is simple, just press the download button for the library you want. All your track information and playlists will be converted accordingly.
The following information will be converted:
- Track info (rating, comments, playcount, key and more)
- Track paths
- Cue points
- Beatgrid markers
- Playlists
There are some minor limitations since not all DJ apps have the exact same features, more on that below.
Partial download
You can choose to only download a partial library. This is especially useful for the bigger libraries with Rekordbox because it can take a long time to import back into Rekordbox.
Any track in the partial XML/NML will overwrite the same matching track in your existing library. Other tracks will not be changed.
Partial download is also available for VirtualDJ but only through the Companion App.
Beatgrid shift correction
There is a problem between how Rekordbox, Traktor, VirtualDJ and Serato read MP3 files. Most of the time they see the exact same MP3 file but in a small percentage of tracks, a tiny bit of silence (26 or 50 milliseconds) gets added to the start of the track. This causes your cue points and beatgrids to be shifted.
To correct this problem, you can use the Companion App to scan your library for files that are afflicted by this problem. You can download the Companion App here.
Libraries downloaded after you run the scan will be adjusted automatically.
This problem only occurs when converting between different systems. There is no need to use this if you don't convert your library.
This was discovered and researched by Pedro Estrela, you can find more information about this problem here.
Nearest color
All DJ apps have slightly different colors. You can let rekordcloud change your track and cue colors to the nearest similar color. If you disable this option, any color that does not exist in your target DJ app will be set to no color.
Exporting from Rekordbox 5
If you want to export your beatgrid, you have to select the BPM change points option in the Advanced tab under Rekordbox preferences.
Options
Add hot cues
If enabled, this will set the first 8 cue points of all your tracks as hot cues. This only applies to tracks that have no hot cues. You may want to enable this if you're converting from Traktor so that you'll automatically get hot cues in Rekordbox.
Copy to memory cues
If enabled, this will copy hot cues to memory cues. This only applies to tracks that have no memory cues yet. This is useful when converting from VirtualDJ because VirtualDJ only knows hot cues but in Rekordbox it is helpful to have memory cues too.
If you are coming from Serato, loop cues are prioritized. Loop cues will be set as memory cues first and then hot cues will be copied over in the available space.
Only edited tracks
This will only add tracks to your download that were changed by rekordcloud since your last upload. Your download will potentially be much smaller and faster to generate and import. Playlists will not be added to your download since these partial playlists would then overwrite your existing playlists.
This option is not supported by VirtualDJ.
Limitations
Hot cues
Traktor has no hot cues so Rekordbox hot cues are converted to regular cue points in Traktor. If any hot cue is on the same spot as a regular cue, only one is preserved. If you want hot cues in Rekordbox, you can enable the Add hot cues option, see above.
Cues
Traktor has no colored cue points. If you have colored cue points in Rekordbox or VirtualDJ, this will not be preserved in Traktor.
Last played
Rekordbox does not store last played date. This track information from Traktor or VirtualDJ will not be preserved in Rekordbox.
Remix Sets
Only Traktor supports remix sets. If you convert to Rekordbox or VirtualDJ, these will be lost.
Colors
Rekordbox memory cue colors can't be converted because Rekordbox does not add these to the XML file. Hot cue colors do work.
VirtualDJ looks like it adds colors to your cue points but it actually doesn't by default. If you go into the POI editor, you will see all your cue points have no color by default. That's where you have to set cue colors.
Comment fields
VirtualDJ tracks have fields named Comment, Field1 and Field2. Comment fields are mapped appropriately. Field1 and Field2 are merged into the Comment 2 field in Traktor. Rekordbox has no extra fields so these extra fields can't be preserved.
Rekordbox
Rekordbox saves intelligent playlists as normal playlists to the XML, so there is no way for rekordcloud to distinguish them. That's why you'll see them as regular playlists when you are importing your new XML. Best thing you can do is to just ignore these, since the intelligent playlists that you already had will update as normal.
A maximum of 50 beat markers are uploaded per track, the rest is discarded. This is because dynamic analysis can add hundreds (sometimes thousands) of useless markers to a song.
Serato
FLIP entries are not converted. Only 1 beatgrid marker is supported in OGG files. AAC files are not supported.
If the amount of cues and loops cues together exceeds the maximum, then loop cues will be dropped first.
Your database file and crates are always backed up before rekordcloud changes them. You can find these backups in the Music/_Serato_/rekordcloud folder and on every drive that Serato has tracks on.
Importing your new library
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After you download your new library in XML, NML or ZIP format you still have to import it back into your DJ app. To learn how to do this, check out the Download Library wiki page in the left menu.